Noah’s Flood, where’s the water?

Enough water to flood the whole earth found in earth's upper mantle.

Just about everyone has heard about Noah’s Flood. The main objection to it being true is that there is not enough water to flood the whole earth to the highest mountain. And this objection has gone unanswered for years because no one really knows how much water is on and underneath the crust of this planet. Or do they?

There has been testing and research done on the upper mantle of the earth. A mineral called “wadsleyite”, holds about 3% water by weight. Does not sound like much but the estimated amount of wadsleyite that exists, the water contained in it works out to be about 30 of our oceans. 30 oceans worth of water is more than enough to flood the earth to the highest mountain.

Suddenly, there was somewhere to put water deep inside the mantle. “You can have oceans and oceans of water stored in the transition zone,” says Jay Bass of the University of Illinois in Urbana-Champaign. “It’s sopping wet stuff.” Researchers think wadsleyite can hold as much as 33 per cent water by weight. It may not sound like much, but there could be an awful lot of wadsleyite.

According to Smyth, models of the mantle’s composition suggest that at the depths where wadsleyite is stable, between half and three-quarters of the material is the right stuff for making this mineral. “If the region between 400 and 525 kilometers were, say, 60 per cent wadsleyite, and that phase was saturated at 33 weight per cent, that’s ten oceans of water,” says Smyth. But Dan Frost, an experimental petrologist at the Carnegie Institution of Washington’s Geophysical Laboratory in Washington DC, thinks the mantle could contain even more water.

Frost says that solidified lava that has erupted at mid-ocean ridges contains glass that can be analyzed for water content. His research team has calculated how much water the lava’s parent material in the mantle must have contained. “It ends up being between 100 and 500 parts per million,” he says. And if the whole mantle contained 500 parts per million of water, Frost calculates that would be the equivalent of 30 oceans of water.

Reference:Ldolphin-deepwaters
Scientists scanning the deep interior of Earth have found evidence of a vast water reservoir beneath eastern Asia that is at least the volume of the Arctic Ocean.
The discovery marks the first time such a large body of water has found in the planets deep mantle.
Reference: Live Science

A seismologist at Washington University in St. Louis has made the first 3-D model of seismic wave damping diminishing deep in the Earth’s mantle and has revealed the existence of an underground water reservoir at least the volume of the Arctic Ocean. It is the first evidence for water existing in the Earth’s deep mantle.

Reference: Physorg

A seismologist has made the first 3-D model of seismic wave damping, or diminishing, deep in the Earth’s mantle and has revealed the existence of an underground water reservoir at least the volume of the Arctic Ocean.

Reference: Washington University in St Louis

The question is, why has not science shared this information with creationists? Can you guess why? It’s because it support Noah’s flood of the whole earth to the highest mountain, and not Evolution. This does away with the ideas of a local flood and shows that God knew before science did, that there was enough water. He created it.

But science also over looked something else while trying to debunk Noah’s Flood. When that much water comes up, the surface area of the earth decreases by a great amount making it to where a lot less actual water is needed to flood the earth to the point the Bible speaks of. But there is more. They try to claim that subduction put all that water in the upper mantle of the earth. If subduction pulls that much water into the upper mantle, by now there would not be any water left on the surface of this planet. So the flood is the only working mechanism that could have placed it there.

How can the water go into the mantle without boiling off?Solution: The water for the flood was 7 miles above the earth’s crust (sea level), and 6 miles to the deepest ocean. Pressure applied to water increases the boiling point. According to scuba diving books, every 33 feet you descend into water equals 1 atmosphere. One atmosphere = 14.7 psi. So you take how many feet are in a mile. Divide that by 33. And you get how many atmospheres are in one mile. Times that times 13 miles and you get the least amount of pressure for the least amount of water required to cover the earth for the flood. After you have the amount of atmospheres in 13 miles of water, you times that times 14.7 and you get the actual pressure at the bottom of the ocean during the flood.

From there you can figure a boiling point. But remember, water can only reach a certain boiling point and can go no higher regardless of pressure. You can research this on the web. The other point is that salt raises this boiling point (much like antifreeze raises the boiling point of water in a car radiator) along with any other mineral that was present. So if would be safe to add 10 – 30% higher boiling point when figuring this up. I did not figure up the math for this here because I think people should see this for themselves.

Side notes: Black smokers shoot water out at over 700 degrees F. This is due to the black smoker being deep in the water where great pressure exists (several atmospheres). And it has been known that some upper mantle minerals have held water at temps around 1000 degree C. This is due to extreme pressures, and the mineral’s capability to increase the boiling point.

What does this prove?
That the water receding after the flood can go into the upper mantle without boiling off. And it is not being able to come back up without broiling the earth fulfills a promise God made. He told Noah that he would never flood the whole earth again. So the water being locked in that mineral proves God’s promise.

So explain away as they might try, we now have enough water, and a working mechanism to get the water down there.

Update: Since there is overwhelming evidence of a watery death for dinosaurs science has decided to take a peek at the idea: New Scientist (link). But don’t hold your breathe.

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