Can Theistic Evolution belief make a Christian lose their salvation?

For those who don’t know what Theistic Evolution belief is. It’s where a person believes that God’s creation was controlled by natural forces. And that God used evolution to create all that we see. And that the Biblical time-line is a myth. Believing in Theistic Evolution has many problems. One of the main problems is they cannot answer when, in the evolution process, that man obtained a soul that could be saved. It even denies the first sin by denying the existence of the Garden in which Adam and Eve sinned. So along with everything else, the plan of redemption is denied because for what sin did Christ die for?

The danger the theistic evolutionist puts themselves into is called: To err from the truth.

James 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

There are several key words here that would apply to a Theistic Evolutionist.
1) Brethren = believer.
2) If any of you = all believers.
3) err from the truth = you have to know the truth before you can err from it.
4) Convert = having to be brought unto salvation again. What else do you convert the brethren to for erring from the truth?
5) Save a soul from death = the lake of fire.
6) Hide a multitude of sins = the brethren sin was no longer forgiven because they fell from salvation. So it has to be redone.

Why does this apply to Theistic Evolutionists? Because erring from the truth (what the bible says) means that they knew what the truth was. And since they preferred the lie instead, and called it truth. They were also indirectly calling God a liar as well. What is it that has to be said every time someone brings up: That’s not what the Bible says? What you say not only applies to the word, but also applies to God. That is why erring from the truth is bad, and puts the person who does it in danger of losing salvation.

Side note:Can you lose salvation? That is a whole different post subject, but one question will sum it up. In the Judgment Throne of Christ, who are the goats that get thrown into the fire? If you say: Unsaved sinners. Then find in God’s word where it ever refers to unsaved sinners as goats? And where did the goats come from to be judged? The goats being unsaved sinners is not there because the goats are the Christians who did not do what they were supposed to. Why do you think both sides were not being judged on whether they had salvation or not? It’s because they “all” already had it. So what the judgment was, was whether they did the kingdom works to help bring in the harvest.

Those who lost their salvation while on this earth are not at that judgment. This is because they are considered unsaved sinners because they no longer have the blood of Christ. This is the danger TE’s put themselves in by choosing to believe what the world says is true while still trying to have God and salvation. Salvation is not a have your cake and eat it too covenant. Also, If anyone can find the verse that says that unsaved sinners are goats, you are welcome to post it. I have no problem being corrected. To be corrected is to be closer to truth.

Still don’t think TE belief puts you in danger of losing salvation? Let’s put it in Biblical prospective. The Bible says:

mt 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

1) I have yet to see a unsaved sinner brought to salvation using the message of TE as a salvation message.
2) I have yet to see TE street preachers.
3) Where are the TE bible studies?
4) Where are the TE crusades for Christ?

Evolution cannot be a part of the plan of redemption, or it would have been already added and there would have been people saved by it. But the numbers are ZERO for a reason.

jn 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Father God controls the drawing power unto the son for salvation. So if the Father does not approve, the drawing power won’t be there, and no one will get saved. This is why there are ZERO TE salvation testimonies from previous unsaved people. And all TE’s know better than to take their message and try and hold a crusade for Christ. Nothing will happen because God won’t be behind it. And if you are the type of person who has to see in order to believe. Go stand on a street corner and try to save people with the message of God using evolution to create. See how many people you can get to convert.

So what does TE belief really mean?
1) A Christian that wants to fit in with the world will convert to this.
2) A Christian who wants God on their own terms will convert to this.
3) A Christian who gets tired of being called stupid for their belief, will convert to this to look smart.
4) A Christian that wants to slowly leave their faith will convert to this, then atheism.

Maybe someone can post a list of what TE belief does for God? Anyone? But let’s be honest, Theory of Evolution has it’s roots in Paganism and Satanism as video below will show.

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Jesus have mercy on me a sinner

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AMEN Reaching out to the lost in an abundance of Love and Kindness 😊

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Unfortunately many wont listen.....:(

Mabey your shame is justified... You should probably stop. Also you aren't going to change any minds by lying and editing videos to make non believers look bad. You're doing the opposite of what you claim your intentions are.

There is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus who walk after the Spirit and not according to the flesh. Those who live according to the flesh will also be judged by it.

But shame isn't the motivation for sharing the love of Christ. Obedience resulting from irresistibly loving Him is our motivation.

I Can't even begin to fathom what an eternity without God looks like 😣 Being totally separated from him

We are called to do our fathers business period

Yeh , so stop please.

"It shames most of us to consider what percentage of our time we spend warning the lost of their terrible danger." Imagine if 50% of the people in the world follow a different religion than you, and they consider you "lost" while you in turn consider them "lost." Or if instead of just 2 religions, now there are 100 different religions with different variations of them and different sects, different denominations, with different interpretations, etc. Every group thinks every other group is "lost" while they are not. How do you resolve which of you ACTUALLY ARE "lost" and hold incorrect beliefs, besides your merely saying it over and over again? If their simply telling you that you are "lost" does not convince you, how could you fault them for doing the exact same with you? That would be a height of hypocrisy. Welcome to religion 101. If we want to determine what is true and false beyond just asserting so, we need objective reason, evidence, facts, and logic. That is far more reliable and successful in history than people simply stating that other people are wrong, I am right, etc. Until actual reason, evidence, facts, and logic are presented for someone's religious claims, it would be irresponsible to believe those religious claims. It would also be hypocritical to criticize the religious beliefs of others, when their basis for holding them is the same as your basis for you holding yours (they have "faith" in them, even if the evidence is not there).

All too often you hear people say “ you won’t change my mind”. It’s not a mind transformation. It’s a heart transformation. The Devil is good at what he does. He influences your mind with human rights, Scientology, Evolution, and Religion. He uses all worldly platforms in education, music, movies, books, worldly traditions, politics and all to manipulate your heart. We indulge in the desires of the flesh and sin because it “FEELS” good. Christianity is not a religion. Following Christ is not a religion. It is a way of life and the only way to Heaven if you believe there is one. And there is, as much as there is a hell. And every individual who has ever lived on this little blue rock from the beginning of creation will go to one place or the other. God gives us free will. To make a choice. Once that choice is made solid in your heart, then your destiny is sealed. It now becomes God’s will. It is written “THY WILL BE DONE”. On earth as it is in Heaven. Don’t be foolish. Life on this earth is as a vapor. One minute your here. The next your gone. You are not promised time. Who knows when death will call them? Anyone? Do you know? Are you willing to risk hell forever to find out you were wrong that God doesn’t exist? Your choice. Don’t harden your heart to the warnings that come from God Himself.

In case another person asks me again, Ray’s quote is why I comment here. You just can’t stay out of the lives of others... The only “lost” people are the ones who’ve flushed their intellects for a sales pitch about a product that doesn’t exist...?

True, I am working on that... prayers would help!

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There are some great answers on here! Thank you for sharing who God has used to mature you in your walk with Christ!

I’d have to say David Wilkerson in the beginning of my walk. His sermons were so powerful and convicting. I’ve listened to just about all of them and a lot of them more than once!!! Now Joe is keeping me on my toes and growing in the faith! I learn so much from him!!! God bless you all!

The first was David Wilkerson, then David J. Meyer of Last Trumpet Minstries.

David Pawson, Reuben Torrey, Leonard Ravenhill, Dan Jennings, Casey Whitaker, Raymond McMahon, Joe Webb, Joe McClure and Dan Corner.

Walter Veith. He teaches a lot on Biblical prophecies and church history. Always pointing out false teachings going on in the world.

Pastor Erwin Lutzer helped me get out of gnosticism with his teachings on new age I praise God for him and his biblical foundations. And currently Dr. Michael Heiser is helping me dig much deep in the Hebrew scriptures and the Greek new testament!

Adrian Rodgers, John Hagy, D James Kennedy, Charles Stanley, Robert Jeffress, James Dobson.

Warren Wiersbe....his Be Series books have been some great advice. Adrian Rodgers and Ed Hindson too. Love Jacob Prasch.

Dennis and Cathy strouse!

Corey Trimble from the Experience Community Church in Murfreesboro, TN. He is a teacher who takes his congregation through the Bible one chapter a week, breaking it down verse by verse. Also Joe Schimmel, Chad, Tony, and whoever else’s involved in good fight! You guys have helped me grow so much! I’m on the east coast but I hope one day to meet you when I visit family in California!

Pastor Hank Lindstrom Calvary of Tampa

Michael Pearl - No Greater Joy Ministries.

Billy Gowan, Charles Stanley, Jentzen Franklin, Smith Wigglesworth.

I like John MacArthur and Piper

Bill McCabe. Teacher of my first bible study in Burbank Ca where I was also baptized! Where I met a friend that led me to BLESSED HOPE CHAPEL in Simi Valley! 🙌🏼

Derek Prince has many solid biblical teachings on YouTube. He was a humble man and had a close walk with the Lord. He also has written many books.

Chuck Missler, Ray Comfort, Steven Anderson, John Piper, Paulo Junior, Agenor Duque, Todd Friel, Ken Ham, Carl Kerby, etc.

Reverend Collins a days senior my pastor, one of my first biblical teachers rev Richard Andrews, a co-worker of mine pastor Robert hund, but I've also learned a lot of lessons from guys like dr. Voddie baucham, Paul washer, John hagee, dr. Tony Evans, and dr. RC Sproul. Among others but these were the main contributors. But I also don't want to leave out pastor spurgeon and aw tozer

John MacArthur and Charles Stanley.

James Jacob Prasch - extremely gifted of God teacher to the Body of Christ.

Pastor Charles Lawson and Chuck Missler.

I don't follow them now but...joyce meyers, and doug bachelor. A few months ago i started listening to Charles Lawson he's pretty good. And i just found jacob prasch so far i like him.

Chris Quintana of Calvary Chapel Cypress, Billy Crone

To many to mention! 😉 but I will say most on this list that people have said.

Rev. Verne Gerdes from Bath, Illinois. He read the Bible through every year and had read it around 60 times. Before he passed away in the hospital and he wasn't concious in the "real world" he quoted scripture for 2 days before he died. What an inspiration.

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OEC = Old Earth Creation. Means they believe God used millions and billions of years to create. And the days are not literal 24 hour days. And there is a huge gap aka gap theory, and God created the earth twice. Google Old Earth Creation.

I'm actually reading "Old Earth Creationism on Trial", and the authors are developing the same conclusion.

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What atheists have refuse to tell us since day one. That they fudged the numbers, and if you unfudge them the actual percentage is about 70%. Listen and see for yourself. And no the video is not done by creationists. It's done by atheists who are trying to justify what they did.

Now if creationists had taken evidence and went this far, do you think the atheists would accept this, or call us liars?

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No we are not. We are no % chimp. "26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." Genesis 1: 26, 27

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