Can Theistic Evolution belief make a Christian lose their salvation?

For those who don’t know what Theistic Evolution belief is. It’s where a person believes that God’s creation was controlled by natural forces. And that God used evolution to create all that we see. And that the Biblical time-line is a myth. Believing in Theistic Evolution has many problems. One of the main problems is they cannot answer when, in the evolution process, that man obtained a soul that could be saved. It even denies the first sin by denying the existence of the Garden in which Adam and Eve sinned. So along with everything else, the plan of redemption is denied because for what sin did Christ die for?

The danger the theistic evolutionist puts themselves into is called: To err from the truth.

James 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

There are several key words here that would apply to a Theistic Evolutionist.
1) Brethren = believer.
2) If any of you = all believers.
3) err from the truth = you have to know the truth before you can err from it.
4) Convert = having to be brought unto salvation again. What else do you convert the brethren to for erring from the truth?
5) Save a soul from death = the lake of fire.
6) Hide a multitude of sins = the brethren sin was no longer forgiven because they fell from salvation. So it has to be redone.

Why does this apply to Theistic Evolutionists? Because erring from the truth (what the bible says) means that they knew what the truth was. And since they preferred the lie instead, and called it truth. They were also indirectly calling God a liar as well. What is it that has to be said every time someone brings up: That’s not what the Bible says? What you say not only applies to the word, but also applies to God. That is why erring from the truth is bad, and puts the person who does it in danger of losing salvation.

Side note:Can you lose salvation? That is a whole different post subject, but one question will sum it up. In the Judgment Throne of Christ, who are the goats that get thrown into the fire? If you say: Unsaved sinners. Then find in God’s word where it ever refers to unsaved sinners as goats? And where did the goats come from to be judged? The goats being unsaved sinners is not there because the goats are the Christians who did not do what they were supposed to. Why do you think both sides were not being judged on whether they had salvation or not? It’s because they “all” already had it. So what the judgment was, was whether they did the kingdom works to help bring in the harvest.

Those who lost their salvation while on this earth are not at that judgment. This is because they are considered unsaved sinners because they no longer have the blood of Christ. This is the danger TE’s put themselves in by choosing to believe what the world says is true while still trying to have God and salvation. Salvation is not a have your cake and eat it too covenant. Also, If anyone can find the verse that says that unsaved sinners are goats, you are welcome to post it. I have no problem being corrected. To be corrected is to be closer to truth.

Still don’t think TE belief puts you in danger of losing salvation? Let’s put it in Biblical prospective. The Bible says:

mt 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

1) I have yet to see a unsaved sinner brought to salvation using the message of TE as a salvation message.
2) I have yet to see TE street preachers.
3) Where are the TE bible studies?
4) Where are the TE crusades for Christ?

Evolution cannot be a part of the plan of redemption, or it would have been already added and there would have been people saved by it. But the numbers are ZERO for a reason.

jn 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Father God controls the drawing power unto the son for salvation. So if the Father does not approve, the drawing power won’t be there, and no one will get saved. This is why there are ZERO TE salvation testimonies from previous unsaved people. And all TE’s know better than to take their message and try and hold a crusade for Christ. Nothing will happen because God won’t be behind it. And if you are the type of person who has to see in order to believe. Go stand on a street corner and try to save people with the message of God using evolution to create. See how many people you can get to convert.

So what does TE belief really mean?
1) A Christian that wants to fit in with the world will convert to this.
2) A Christian who wants God on their own terms will convert to this.
3) A Christian who gets tired of being called stupid for their belief, will convert to this to look smart.
4) A Christian that wants to slowly leave their faith will convert to this, then atheism.

Maybe someone can post a list of what TE belief does for God? Anyone? But let’s be honest, Theory of Evolution has it’s roots in Paganism and Satanism as video below will show.

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Origins and Independence

How old is the USA? This is not meant as a trick question. While we could make a case for several different dates of the United States’ founding, Americans celebrate the Fourth of July as the nation’s birthday.

Given the date of 4 July 1776 as the declaration of the nation’s independence, it’s easy to calculate the age of the United States of America.

Imagine that we didn’t know the date and instead had to rely on natural processes such as population growth or technological level to estimate the country’s age. How reliable would these natural calendars be? They would only be as reliable as the assumptions put into their model’s framework. 

While a natural process might be useful in some situations (given correct assumptions), the only way to know the precise age is by a reliable witness. We base age on the testimony of a reliable witness, whether it’s a birth certificate for a person or the Declaration of Independence for the United States of America.

How old is planet earth? Some believe that natural processes can provide an estimate for the age of the earth. The only way to know with certainty is by the testimony of a reliable witness. The plain words of God in the Bible show that the earth is less than 10,000 years old. There is much scientific evidence to collaborate this age also.

We can celebrate the fact that we have reliable witnesses to the founding of nations and to the founding of the planet itself.

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Origins and Independence

How old is the USA? This is not meant as a trick question. While we could make a case for several different dates of the United States’ founding, Americans celebrate the Fourth of July as the nation’s birthday.

Given the date of 4 July 1776 as the declaration of the nation’s independence, it’s easy to calculate the age of the United States of America.

Imagine that we didn’t know the date and instead had to rely on natural processes such as population growth or technological level to estimate the country’s age. How reliable would these natural calendars be? They would only be as reliable as the assumptions put into their model’s framework.

While a natural process might be useful in some situations (given correct assumptions), the only way to know the precise age is by a reliable witness. We base age on the testimony of a reliable witness, whether it’s a birth certificate for a person or the Declaration of Independence for the United States of America.

How old is planet earth? Some believe that natural processes can provide an estimate for the age of the earth. The only way to know with certainty is by the testimony of a reliable witness. The plain words of God in the Bible show that the earth is less than 10,000 years old. There is much scientific evidence to collaborate this age also.

We can celebrate the fact that we have reliable witnesses to the founding of nations and to the founding of the planet itself.

GHL

Learn more about creation www.creationresearch.org
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Pastor Joe Schimmel and host Chad Davidson continue to discuss the issues with Bethel Church and call attention to those things which need to be marked out and rebuked.

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In Part 2 of our series on Bethel Church we examine not only what is going on inside the walls of Bethel Church, but we also examine those who are involved with Bethel outside the walls of their church. We look into the teachings of Beni Johnson, Jenn Johnson, and friends of Bethel, such as Kris Vallotton, Todd Bentley, Todd White, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, and strange practices such as "grave soaking".

Pastor Joe Schimmel and host Chad Davidson continue to discuss the issues with Bethel Church and call attention to those things which need to be marked out and rebuked.

Below are the titles of each video in the series and their Premiere date:

Friday, June 26
Examining Bill Johnson's Bethel Church

Friday, July 3
The Bethel & Friends Contagion

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Bethel's Sozo Obsession

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Hogwarts School of Supernatural Ministry & Witches at Bethel?
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Numerical Model Development of Earth’s Mantle Dynamics during the Genesis Flood: Multiphase Mantle Compositions and the Effects on Solid Mantle’s Dynamics 

Computer simulations of Catastrophic Plate Tectonics (CPT) will be performed using improved numerical modeling approaches to study the realistic rock deformational behavior under conditions of the Genesis Flood. The model will include the multiple mineral phases of the Earth’s mantle, and thereby will take into account the effects of those phases on overall rock’s mechanical properties. The microscopic features (e.g., grain size, recrystallization, and phase transformation) and the associated macroscopic thermal and mechanical properties of the rocks will be treated in more detail than ever before, in an attempt to model runaway plate movements. 

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Current CRS-sponsored Research Projects, Part 7

Dr Gene Chaffin, vice-president of the Creation Research Society listed several of the current research projects that have been awarded grants from the Creation Research Society. He states, “Each grant is awarded based on review and vote by the members of the research committee. We are grateful to the donors who have made these grants possible.”

Numerical Model Development of Earth’s Mantle Dynamics during the Genesis Flood: Multiphase Mantle Compositions and the Effects on Solid Mantle’s Dynamics

Computer simulations of Catastrophic Plate Tectonics (CPT) will be performed using improved numerical modeling approaches to study the realistic rock deformational behavior under conditions of the Genesis Flood. The model will include the multiple mineral phases of the Earth’s mantle, and thereby will take into account the effects of those phases on overall rock’s mechanical properties. The microscopic features (e.g., grain size, recrystallization, and phase transformation) and the associated macroscopic thermal and mechanical properties of the rocks will be treated in more detail than ever before, in an attempt to model runaway plate movements.

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Dr Gene Chaffin, vice-president of the Creation Research Society listed several of the current research projects that have been awarded grants from the Creation Research Society. He states, “Each grant is awarded based on review and vote by the members of the research committee. We are grateful to the donors who have made these grants possible.” 

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In Wyoming there is an Edmontosaurus dinosaur bone bed in the Upper Maastrichtian Lance Formation. The exact stratigraphic position of the bone bed in the Lance is of interest, seeing as it is very close to the famed Cretaceous-Tertiary boundary (the uppermost stratigraphic record of the dinosaurs, and a possible Flood/post-Flood boundary). However, since the stratigraphy of the roughly 2500-foot-thick Lance has never been worked out, the stratigraphic position of the bone bed in the Lance is unknown. Both the bone bed and associated strata appear to be underwater debris flows covering at least hundreds, and perhaps thousands, of square miles, and having traveled at least scores, and probably hundreds of miles. This, combined with evidence of massive earthquake activity, suggests the Lance Formation was formed in the Flood or soon thereafter. 

The research will look for evidence of these types of catastrophism in the region.

Learn more about creation www.creationresearch.org

Current CRS-sponsored Research Projects, Part 6

Dr Gene Chaffin, vice-president of the Creation Research Society listed several of the current research projects that have been awarded grants from the Creation Research Society. He states, “Each grant is awarded based on review and vote by the members of the research committee. We are grateful to the donors who have made these grants possible.”

Catastrophism in the Type Area of the Lance Formation (Maastrichtian, Cretaceous)

In Wyoming there is an Edmontosaurus dinosaur bone bed in the Upper Maastrichtian Lance Formation. The exact stratigraphic position of the bone bed in the Lance is of interest, seeing as it is very close to the famed Cretaceous-Tertiary boundary (the uppermost stratigraphic record of the dinosaurs, and a possible Flood/post-Flood boundary). However, since the stratigraphy of the roughly 2500-foot-thick Lance has never been worked out, the stratigraphic position of the bone bed in the Lance is unknown. Both the bone bed and associated strata appear to be underwater debris flows covering at least hundreds, and perhaps thousands, of square miles, and having traveled at least scores, and probably hundreds of miles. This, combined with evidence of massive earthquake activity, suggests the Lance Formation was formed in the Flood or soon thereafter.

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