Challenge to YECs? Part 7

7. OBSERVATIONS FROM THE STUDY OF BIOGEOGRAPHY

  • According to the evolution model, geographic isolation should play a significant role in the distribution of species worldwide. In keeping with this model, species that first evolved in a certain geographic setting and were restricted in their movement to other areas should be found naturally only in the areas in which they first appeared – even though there are no compelling reasons that they could not have survived elsewhere. The facts show that this is indeed the case. For example, overall there are some 13 families and about 180 unique species of marsupials found naturally only in Australia, New Zealand, and New Guinea. The only monotremes (egg laying mammals) are found in this geographical area and nowhere else. How does the YEC model explain, in scientific terms, the migration of these animals to the purported Ark prior to the Flood? (There is no evidence in the fossil record that any of these animals ever existed endemically in the Middle East.) Furthermore, how does the YEC model explain the subsequent migration (after the purported Flood) of these animals back to their original geographic locations? Particular emphasis should be placed on explaining how animals such as the flightless Kiwi and the blind marsupial mole (which lives only in sand) made the round trip and why faster moving placental animals are virtually absent from Australia.
  • Response: The expansion and contraction of the earth’s crust because of the water from under the earth’s crust coming up and then going back means that the motion of the tectonic plates had not completely stopped yet. How does one stop a moving continent? And because there were only certain number of animals that came off the Ark, if they happen to migrate to an area of land that was still in motion because the tectonic plates were still settling. Then they could one day find themselves separated from the rest of the animals that were on the original land mass the Ark had landed on. So being so few in number at that time this separation made the continents often species specific. Because how does the animal swim back, or those left behind swim to them?

Example: Let’s say the polar bear does not swim. Let’s say there are 5 species divided up by male and female of those who are compatible to reproduce. They live separate because they can tell who’s different and are not interesting in mingling. While on the ice one day the ice decides to separate. One species ends up living in one area of the ice while another drifts to a whole totally new area. But they are now totally separate and the two areas are now species specific.Also remember the continents were together at one time (super continent). Which means all land mass were together as well. So when the Ark landed these animals migrate and end up in different areas that later separate after the flood. So does the Bible support Pangaea theory? Yep. In the creation it is stated that the earth was covered totally with water.Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.The whole earth being covered with water during creation is confirmed when the water has to go underground before dry land can appear.Genesis 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
If water has to be removed somewhat so that land could “appear” means that the whole earth was covered during creation. Because you cannot make something appear if it’s already there. And because this was the first expansion of the earth’s crust, this is what left the evidence of the Pangaea super continent. The flood which was the “first contraction” of the tectonic plates pushed up the mountains that we now observe. This is because when the water came up from under the earth’s crust there was nothing there supporting the plates anymore so they come back together forming one solid earth while pushing up mountains. But the cracks from the first expansion were still there. And when the water seep back into what was now very hot, steamed formed making pressure which pushed the tectonics plates back apart allowing water to come back in to be underground again. Once the water pressure equalized between above ground and below ground the extreme pressure made the boiling point of the water go high enough that the boiling and steam stopped and so did the expansion of the tectonic plates. But while the water was flowing into the underground areas the pressures were not high enough so the steam continued to push the plates apart. What made the pressures less during this time was that the expansion acted like a syringe. The plunger being pulled back to suck the liquid inward has to create somewhat of a vacuum to do this. Just like the expanding plates opening faster than the water could flow into it would do the same thing. This is because water has a viscosity to it which means it also has a “flow rate”. This can be demonstrated by pouring water through a funnel. According to how big the smallest end is determines the flow rate because of the water viscosity (how thick it is as a liquid).
But because this brought up more molten rock to the surface to cover the area that has now expanded. There was not enough solid-cooled down molten rock in the earth’s crust yet to stop the tectonic plates from moving like they were floating. What this allowed for was continental drift. So when the animals from the flood got onto certain land masses while migrating that were still drifting, they became separated from the original group making that particular continent only have the species that happened to migrate to that land mass before it drifted away. Once that molten rock hardened enough, and in the amount needed. The continents drift slowed up to what we observe today and the continents basically drifted to their current positions. So the hardening molten rock acted as a type of braking system slowing up the continental drift over the years. What would also help in the slowing of the tectonic plates movements is the gravitational pull of the moon as it orbits and the pull of the sun.This video, which has nothing to do with creation, pretty much sums up how the earth expands and contracts when water exists and then is removed.

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Neal Adams, who made this video animation, did not realize his idea fits perfectly with the creation model. Because to make the earth smaller water has to be removed from under the crust and between the land masses. And as you watch the earth shrink in the animation notice how the water disappears. In the creation and flood model this is what the land masses would look like under the water. And this is something that most evolutionists forget is the earth will shrink when the water from underneath the crust is removed. But then you might say: There is not enough water under the crust to make the earth shrink that much. And if you assume that you would be wrong.Research done on the upper mantle of the earth has found that a mineral called “wadsleyite” holds about 3% of water by weight. This may not seem like much until you do the math on how much wadsleyite there is. The amount of water works out to be 30 oceans worth. More than enough to flood well beyond the highest mountain, and make the earth expand and contract as much as shown in the animation.
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  • The now extinct flightless dodo bird existed only on an island in the Indian Ocean. The slow-moving three-toed sloth, armadillos, new world monkeys, jaguars, rattlesnakes, and indigenous cacti exist only in the Americas. The speed-challenged and clumsy giant spiny anteater exists only in New Guinea. The Gila monster exists only in the American Southwest, although it should be equally at home in the deserts of the Middle East (as should be cacti and rattlesnakes). The flightless cormorant lives only in the Galapagos and the penguins live in Antarctica. Fossas and lemurs are endemic to Madagascar, but no monkeys or cats naturally inhabit this area. Lungfishes, ostrich-like birds (ratite birds), and leptodactylid frogs occur naturally only in South America, Africa, and Australia. Alligators, some related species of giant salamander, and magnolias occur naturally only in Eastern North America and East Asia (these two continents were once in close proximity on the Laurasian contintent). As above, describe how the YEC model provides a scientific explanation for the migration of these types of species to and from their specific areas of habitation before and after the Flood. Explain also why species are not distributed evenly amongst the habitats for which they are equally well adapted. In particular, explain in terms of the YEC model why there are no elephants on any Pacific islands, no rattlesnakes or indigenous cacti in Australia or the Sahara desert, and no amphibians on remote islands.
  • Response: The last response answered this question. But I will take this a step further to prove my point. Because of the flood there should be a dispersion of all seeds all around the planet. This would not be like the last response where areas became species specific due to continent separation. The plant dispersion and survival would be based more on its ability to survive in the area its seeds ended up in. So we would expect to see plants growing according to its ability to survive in that climate so the mixture of species would not be as much continent specific as animal life. And that is what we see.

Also the flood would explain such huge movement in the tectonic plates that would allow plants to be found in areas today that they could have never survived in. Such as palm trees found buried in ice. Plants and animals found buried near the poles that only lived in warm climate and could have never survived the cold climate. Only movement of the plates due to a flood could displace things like that.

  • The earth consists of distinctive geographic regions, each characterized by the presence of various organisms which have evolved to fill those niches. If one studies a species across its geographic range, it is frequently observed that it varies from place to place. Sometimes the extreme representatives of this variable sequence even meet in close proximity. For example, the herring gulls and the black-backed gulls coexist in Britain. Although these species do not interbreed, they are connected in a series of interbreeding populations that extend around the North Pole. The populations immediately west of Britain look similar to herring gulls. Moving in a clock-wise direction around the North Pole, the populations gradually start looking more and more like black-backed gulls and less and less like herring gulls. Their black-backed traits become predominant near Siberia. The evolution of these two distinct species can be traced by simply observing sequential morphological changes in populations throughout their range. A similar relationship is observed with the Ensatina salamanders of the Pacific coast.
  • Response: Birds are actually a bad example for the specific reason that these birds can migrate thousands of miles over water and land. Their migration places them where they are, unlike land animals who would be restricted from moving across thousands of mile of water. So it does not mean one species of bird bread off another because they happen to live next to each other. Their migration drive is also fed by the need to breed. For if their migration habits were different and they did not live together then this conclusion could not be made. Or the interpretation would be different just to make the conclusion conform to how evolution works. Conformism is not science.
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Comfort came when that flood stopped not because they had a cushion on board

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10 million still up for grabs. No one can do it because evolution is not true. ~ Issac 

Quote: Was Life a “Happy Chemical Accident”???
(How a careless remark by Richard Dawkins on NPR led to the largest Origin Of Life prize in history)

In 2005 I heard Richard Dawkins on NPR radio station WBUR Boston. A caller asked where life came from.

“Life was a happy chemical accident!” he replied.

Dawkins was an endowed professor of the “Public Understanding of Science” at the University of Oxford.

I was astounded that a professor in charge of “Public understanding of science” would proclaim that life is a “happy chemical accident.”

Is that even a scientific statement? What is science, anyway?

From Online Dictionary:

SCIENCE: 1. a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws: the mathematical sciences.

2. systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.

If you cannot test it, reproduce it, falsify it, observe it, validate it from first principles, model it, simulate it on a computer or validate it mathematically… then it’s not science!

If life is something that happened literally accidentally, perhaps only once in the history of the entire universe… then in order to accept that theory, we have to abandon the scientific method.

Because none of our experience confirms the hypothesis that *accidental* events create nanomachines, or genetic codes, or cells, or anything similar.

I was so disappointed with these low standards of proof that I created a technology prize to find a definitive answer.

This led to the $10 million Evolution 2.0 Prize for discovering the Origin of the Genetic Code.

I announced the prize at the Royal Society in Great Britain on 31 May, with Oxford professors Denis Noble and Paul Flather.

Denis Noble is one of the professors who reviewed Dawkins’ PhD application at Oxford. He’s 83 and sits on the judging panel for the prize, along with Harvards rock star Geneticist George Church.

Denis is a Fellow of the Royal Society and holds a Commander of the British Empire medal from Queen Elizabeth.

14 years later, I have to thank Richard Dawkins, in part - especially his flippant attitude towards the practice of empirical science - for inspiring me to create this prize.

It’s time for us to put this question on solid scientific footing.

Read the Financial Times story about the $10 million USD Evolution 2.0 Prize here:

www.evo2.org/ft

10 million still up for grabs. No one can do it because evolution is not true. ~ Issac

Quote: Was Life a “Happy Chemical Accident”???
(How a careless remark by Richard Dawkins on NPR led to the largest Origin Of Life prize in history)

In 2005 I heard Richard Dawkins on NPR radio station WBUR Boston. A caller asked where life came from.

“Life was a happy chemical accident!” he replied.

Dawkins was an endowed professor of the “Public Understanding of Science” at the University of Oxford.

I was astounded that a professor in charge of “Public understanding of science” would proclaim that life is a “happy chemical accident.”

Is that even a scientific statement? What is science, anyway?

From Online Dictionary:

SCIENCE: 1. a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws: the mathematical sciences.

2. systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.

If you cannot test it, reproduce it, falsify it, observe it, validate it from first principles, model it, simulate it on a computer or validate it mathematically… then it’s not science!

If life is something that happened literally accidentally, perhaps only once in the history of the entire universe… then in order to accept that theory, we have to abandon the scientific method.

Because none of our experience confirms the hypothesis that *accidental* events create nanomachines, or genetic codes, or cells, or anything similar.

I was so disappointed with these low standards of proof that I created a technology prize to find a definitive answer.

This led to the $10 million Evolution 2.0 Prize for discovering the Origin of the Genetic Code.

I announced the prize at the Royal Society in Great Britain on 31 May, with Oxford professors Denis Noble and Paul Flather.

Denis Noble is one of the professors who reviewed Dawkins’ PhD application at Oxford. He’s 83 and sits on the judging panel for the prize, along with Harvard's rock star Geneticist George Church.

Denis is a Fellow of the Royal Society and holds a Commander of the British Empire medal from Queen Elizabeth.

14 years later, I have to thank Richard Dawkins, in part - especially his flippant attitude towards the practice of empirical science - for inspiring me to create this prize.

It’s time for us to put this question on solid scientific footing.

Read the Financial Times story about the $10 million USD Evolution 2.0 Prize here:

www.evo2.org/ftWas Life a “Happy Chemical Accident”???
(How a careless remark by Richard Dawkins on NPR led to the largest Origin Of Life prize in history)

In 2005 I heard Richard Dawkins on NPR radio station WBUR Boston. A caller asked where life came from.

“Life was a happy chemical accident!” he replied.

Dawkins was an endowed professor of the “Public Understanding of Science” at the University of Oxford.

I was astounded that a professor in charge of “Public understanding of science” would proclaim that life is a “happy chemical accident.”

Is that even a scientific statement? What is science, anyway?

From Online Dictionary:

SCIENCE: 1. a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws: the mathematical sciences.

2. systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.

If you cannot test it, reproduce it, falsify it, observe it, validate it from first principles, model it, simulate it on a computer or validate it mathematically… then it’s not science!

If life is something that happened literally accidentally, perhaps only once in the history of the entire universe… then in order to accept that theory, we have to abandon the scientific method.

Because none of our experience confirms the hypothesis that *accidental* events create nanomachines, or genetic codes, or cells, or anything similar.

I was so disappointed with these low standards of proof that I created a technology prize to find a definitive answer.

This led to the $10 million Evolution 2.0 Prize for discovering the Origin of the Genetic Code.

I announced the prize at the Royal Society in Great Britain on 31 May, with Oxford professors Denis Noble and Paul Flather.

Denis Noble is one of the professors who reviewed Dawkins’ PhD application at Oxford. He’s 83 and sits on the judging panel for the prize, along with Harvard's rock star Geneticist George Church.

Denis is a Fellow of the Royal Society and holds a Commander of the British Empire medal from Queen Elizabeth.

14 years later, I have to thank Richard Dawkins, in part - especially his flippant attitude towards the practice of empirical science - for inspiring me to create this prize.

It’s time for us to put this question on solid scientific footing.

Read the Financial Times story about the $10 million USD Evolution 2.0 Prize here:

www.evo2.org/ft
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Never go back to the vomit. Never go back to wallow in the mire! May we never love the very things that nailed our Savior to the cross!

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I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. (Romans 7:15) Edited. You will not understand until you know why you keep doing what you do not want to do. Romans will help you understand.

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Amen!🙌 And don't let anyone try to convince you to go back as well. Stand your ground and stay close to Jesus, our True Deliverer.🙌❤

Great post and message. Needed that! Love yall

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Unfortunately that’s easier said than done sometimes, especially if it’s a habit you’ve had forever.

Amen So True.

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Truth bomb right there.

What a terrifying thing it would be to fall from Gods grace.

Reminds me of some songs. Jesus Lover of My Soul, Came to My Rescue, Victory in Jesus, and so many others. We praise, worship and sing because He came to our rescue so that we can spend eternity with Him. God is Great and Good! 😎

Seem this all to often sadly 😢😢😢

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Praise our jesus. Isn't he fabulous.

Very True! And frightening if you do!!!

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Trick perspective, God put his son on the cross to give you the way to heaven. Anyone who goes to hell, chose it.

He has been a fake Christian for a long time now.

I have no recollection of Rodgers ever making a born again profession of faith.

Deny Jesus or His Words can't be a Christian

He isn't a Christian

The issue isn't why would a loving God choose to send people to Hell. The issue is why would people choose Hell over a loving God.

He who denies me I will deny before my father and all the angels in Heaven!

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