Category: Old earth creation

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Birds do take baths on ant mounts to rid themselves of parasites.

Bird anting. national geographic image.
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It is painful for the bird because the ants do bite, but the birds stands it because of the benefits. God’s creation is great!

Evidence for Creation, Evolution vs creation debates, Old earth creation
Attributes of God.
Believing any deep time creation belief denies many of the attributes of God. This is how believing in Old Earth Creation, or that God used evolution to create does this:
1. Infallible – Without error – perfect etc… What they say: God did not create the earth perfect because God’s Word says it was without form and was void. Not even considering that the form and void might be a reference to something else.
What? It’s actually quite simple as to the reason that they won’t consider it, because it does not sound scientific. If you research how and when God names His creation, He does not name it until He creates it. So nothing by name is mentioned until it has been created.
So if God wants to refer to something before He creates it, how would He do it without naming it? He would mention how He would create it later. So if he wants to referred to man before he creates him, God would refer to *how* He creates him. So how was man created? Adam was *formed* from the ground. Everything else was created differently.
So when the Bible says: The earth was without *form*, it was referring to man. And when it says that the earth is void, it was referring to that the earth would be considered void until man was created. So what was God relaying to us? That man (formed creation) was the whole purpose of the creation, and that the earth would not be complete aka void until man was created.
2) God is all powerful – can do anything. What they say: First he cannot create a perfect earth, so He has to recreate it. Second, he’s not all powerful because He’s bond by deep times so he could not create in 6-24 hour days. And third, being bound by time God had to wait millions and billions of years for His creation to form and spread out aka big bang.
When God made it clear that He spoke age into His creation that day He created it.
2 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, …
Being able to speak age into His creation, makes God all powerful and outside of time and not bound by time. Having to wait billions of years for His creation to form shows God is not outside of time therefore must wait and wait.
So why does old age evidence exist? The same reason Young age evidence exists also. Old age is proof of God speaking age into His creation, which did not require the passage of time. And young earth evidence aka 6,000 year, is evidence of how much actual time actually passed.
So old earth evidence is evidence of God speaking age into His creation aka 2 Peter 3:5. Which speaking age does not require the passage of time. Example: This is how the sun can be created a certain age to be stable enough to allow life to exist on this planet.
Young earth evidence is evidence if the passage of actual time that did not require God to speak age into His creation.
3) Being a redeemer, Savior, dies on the cross to give us life because Adam’s sin caused death. They say without realizing what they do. That death existed before sin (because of all the time passage), Death of any kind before sin means death was a part of the creation making the creation and the Creator imperfect. God does not create death, man chose it. In other words, death was a choice but did not exist until man made that choice.
And this destroys the gospel, because if man did not cause all death, then Christ had no reason to go to the cross to give us life. So if what you believe denies all this, then the whole Bible becomes void starting with creation. Now do you see why there is such a push to believe in deep time creation? Satan knows that you will disqualify yourself for the kingdom.
Here’s why denying God’s attributes is so dangerous through deep time creation beliefs.
“But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 10:33 KJV
Deny God’s attributes before men is to deny Him as God before men also. To believe and deny is oxymoronic. So my challenge to anyone who disagrees with Young Earth Creation is to show and prove where it denies any attribute of God. I have no problem adjusting my views for creation. But you have to use the Bible, and not your personal opinions. Because God’s Word is where real truth comes from.
This image is a scripture quote. 2nd Timothy 3:16 all scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for Doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction and righteousness.
Evidence against Big Bang, Old earth creation

Hyperinflation does not explain this error in math.

Age of universe vs how wide it is.
I looked it up and that’s what they claim. Makes me wonder if they can do math. Because for the speed of light to be supposedly constant, this would be impossible. Just Google search: How wide is the universe.
And even if you use a center point to expand from, which means you divide by 2, you still get over 40 billion light years.
Math requires an absolute to some degree. That’s why they often ignore math.
Old earth creation
This image shows a horse going into a castle while the enemy hides inside. The enemy in this case is any creation belief that is not the literal creation of the Bible. The fort that the horse is going into is a representation of the correct beliefs in Christianity.

Old Earth Creation (OEC), uses everything the theory of evolution uses minus the evolving part. Which means OEC is an offshoot of evolution. I often tell OEC believers to quit using the evolution timeline and get a timeline of their own, then prove it using the Bible. They cannot.

Evidence against evolution, Old earth creation

As time passes from the point of the bang, things are supposed to start out small then get bigger. When the James Webb Telescope looked back in time they found galaxies 100 times bigger than our own when things should be still small aka no big expansion yet. Proving the amount of time required for this to happen, if the Big Bang were true, was not needed.

That God had expanded everything in one day:

“I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.” Isaiah 45:12 KJV
“Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:” Isaiah 42:5 KJV
“He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.” Jeremiah 10:12 KJV
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Old earth creation
Big Bang illustration,
The reason some believers believe that God took millions and billions of years is because they believe God cannot count that high when God can count to infinity. So I’m going to demonstrate why these people are wrong and God could have expressed the high numbers but did not because that much time did not pass.
The place most Old Earth Creationist think millions and billions passed is between Genesis verses 1 and 2. So what I’m going to do is list those verses and put the one verse in Genesis between them that shows number that high can be expressed then ask OECs why they believe what they do.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
“And they blessed Rebekah, and said unto her, Thou art our sister, be thou the mother of thousands* of millions*, and let thy seed possess the gate of those which hate them.” Genesis 24:60 KJV
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Do you see the thousands and millions in that verses I put between Genesis 1 and 2? Do you know what 1.000 times 1 million is? it’s 1 billion.
So my question is to OECs is why you believe what you do when the Bible demonstrates clearly that it could have said millions and billions instead of days? Big Bang only gives you an excuse to not believe what the Word of God actually says. And because you add time to God’s Word that does not parallel God’s Word and timeline. But does parallel evolution, means you are setting the fence in trying to be friends with this world which makes you an enemy of God. Unless you can explain it and I will apologize. But i really don’t see how you can when nothing about OEC and the Big Bang parallels God’s Word. Could you prove that it does?
“Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.” James 4:4 KJV
There is 2 types of adultery.
1) Physical in marriage.
2) Spiritual because the covenant is a marriage covenant so when we sin or believe lies on purpose, we commit spiritual adultery against Christ. Because we know the truth, but prefer lies. So we play with the father of lies instead of with the Father of truth.
So why believe millions and billions of years and big bang when the Bible clearly shows this deep time could have been expressed?
Old earth creation
This is a statue image of a man sitting down and thinking while his chin rests on his hand and his elbow is on his leg.
Does your God have to wait in order to create?
Angel: What are you doing?
God: I’m waiting just for the right time to create.
Angel: Why do you have to do that when you are all powerful?
God: Because some people teach believers that I’m bound by time. Powerless on everything concerning time.
Angel: But being eternal, are you not outside of time?
God: Yes, but that does not stop them from teaching this.
Angel: But why would they teach this about you?
God: Because doing so allows them to be friends with this world to some degree while being believers. And that seems to be more important.
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Big Bang illustration,

In the big bang theory, it’s basically something from nothing. Science does not know where the matter came from, or the energy that made it expand (inflate or blow apart). In fact if you ask 10 different people, you will get at least 3 different stories about how the origins of everything happened. So what is believed is that matter and energy come from nothing. Why believe something they cannot even begin to prove empirically? It is because the alternative points to an intelligent being. But since most everyone knows about the big bang, let’s see how many answers the intelligent creation can answer that big bang does not and cannot.

1) Because God is eternal, He lives in a eternal dimension. Using matter and energy from that dimension to form this dimension answers many questions.
a) Where did the matter and energy come from? It always existed because it came from a dimension that has always existed.
b) How do laws come into being fully balanced to create order and not chaos? An intelligent being from an eternal dimension created them and balanced them.
etc…

When using deductive logic and reasoning, and you remove all that will not work. What is left is creation by an intelligent being. Science is supposed to follow the evidence where ever it leads, yet it is taboo to follow any evidence that points to the supernatural. Basically that rule makes science more about conformism, in the effect that all evidence has to conform to the naturalistic view of evolution or be rejected. Science cannot find the Creator because their own rules won’t allow it.

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In the something from nothing argument below, both Krauss and Dawkins only prove they can B.S. with the best of them. Why do I say that? With all that talk there is zero evidence and a whole lot of assuming going on. Which by the way does not even qualify this as a hypothesis aka educated guess. That is because it’s more about opinions and a worldview then it is about science.

When something takes over 2 hours to explain and yet no one can observe this. It becomes more of selling it then proving it. And there is a big difference between the two.

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And if you do not think this is about worldviews, then explain why most atheists cannot leave out trying to discredit God?

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My response to Aron Ra is that even your side’s beliefs existed before you claimed them to be science. The belief that man came from animals existed back in Egyptians times and by the way, was called science. They even had an abiogenesis type belief where they thought all life came from the slime that existed around the water’s edge of the Nile River. Hence the reason it was often referred to as the life giver as often worshiped as a deity of sorts.

Darwin having zero scientific degrees but one degree in theology, where do you think his theory came from anyway? He just took one of the pagan beliefs that he read about, repackaged it as science, and you guys bought it.